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Title: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: Nick on February 29, 2008, 11:48:37 AM
Okay, you know someone will have to do this eventually, so I'm just gonna take care of it now. :)

Personally I think it is easily Dream Theater's most underrated album. The sound is fresh, energetic, powerful, and the only thing it lacks is production. Songs like The Killing Hand, A Fortune in Lies, Only a Matter of Time, and Status Seeker (Yes, Status Seeker) really should not be overlooked as they are in the grand scheme of DT's career. And there is not a bad song in the ones I didn't mention either. Incredibly consistent, entertaining, and excellent.


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: charliedominici on February 29, 2008, 11:50:20 AM
Okay, you know someone will have to do this eventually, so I'm just gonna take care of it now. :)

Personally I think it is easily Dream Theater's most underrated album. The sound is fresh, energetic, powerful, and the only thing it lacks is production. Songs like The Killing Hand, A Fortune in Lies, Only a Matter of Time, and Status Seeker (Yes, Status Seeker) really should not be overlooked as they are in the grand scheme of DT's career. And there is not a bad song in the ones I didn't mention either. Incredibly consistent, entertaining, and excellent.
And the vocals sound like "Alvin and the chipmunks" :o


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: LudwigVan on February 29, 2008, 11:55:34 AM
Appreciates.   I love the entire album. 


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: tri.ad on February 29, 2008, 11:57:53 AM
It's so goddamn underrated...

Imo, it contains many elements that the DT of the presence lacks to a certain extent.
The middle section in LFAGA is so goddamn groovy, OAMOT has an epic ending, and there are so many overlooked gems on this album that it's not even funny.


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: the shredmaster on February 29, 2008, 12:00:33 PM
It's a great album, The Killing Hand is awesome.


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: veronica on February 29, 2008, 12:01:30 PM
And the vocals sound like "Alvin and the chipmunks" :o
I want a hula hoop!
But yes, I love this album, despite the mentioned production, eh, lackings.
When I bought this, the seller (the bass player in Pagans Mind, btw) looked at me weird and said "you know there's a different vocalist on that one, right? And the production! Man!" I answered something to the effect of "gotta catch'em all, you know" -letting him know I was completing my DT studio record collection. And then I listened to it and was very pleasantly surprised.
So yeah, *appreciates*


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: VFS on February 29, 2008, 12:06:23 PM
And the vocals sound like "Alvin and the chipmunks" :o
I want a hula hoop!
LMAO!!


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: nimrod on February 29, 2008, 01:09:22 PM
It's so goddamn underrated...

Completely. I think the musicianship is brilliant and it's pure Dream Theater, it has a definite original feel to it. Love it.

*appreciates*


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: charliedominici on February 29, 2008, 01:21:01 PM
There's something about when it's "real". That feeling like you aren't even thinking about whether people will like it or not,you just do it because you have to do it. That's what shines on that album. It was real. I'm not saying DT didn't achieve that again because I think they do and have done it often after that CD but that album had what  Cobain would say "smells like teen spirit". We were young(well THEY were anyway)and we didn't care. We just were doing what we loved to do. After you get dragged through the muddy world of the "Music Business" for enough years it's a tribute to any band that can still hold on to that reality. My hat tips to DT on many occasions for that very reason. I still  say the vocals on WDADU sound like f**king chipmunks though.


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: wkiml on February 29, 2008, 01:22:33 PM
I love the songs but its the production that keeps it from being a constant CD in my player


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: the shredmaster on February 29, 2008, 01:25:14 PM
Listening to it now, Fortune In Lies is great.


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: charliedominici on February 29, 2008, 01:30:38 PM
I love the songs but its the production that keeps it from being a constant CD in my player
Get like a 500 band equalizer and boost the bass,lower the mids,take out the honky frequencies 200-400k then dip the CD itself in honey and stick it to you right butt-cheek.
 ;D


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jamesman on February 29, 2008, 01:31:47 PM
Listening to it now, Fortune In Lies is great.
This.


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: wkiml on February 29, 2008, 01:33:40 PM
I love the songs but its the production that keeps it from being a constant CD in my player
Get like a 500 band equalizer and boost the bass,lower the mids,take out the honky frequencies 200-400k then dip the CD itself in honey and stick it to you right butt-cheek.
 ;D

I'll get right on that but a quick question if I used my left cheek instead of the right will it playing backwards satanic messages


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: the shredmaster on February 29, 2008, 01:35:07 PM
I'm actually starting to enjoy Status Seeker now, I always thought it was a boring song but it's pretty good.


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: charliedominici on February 29, 2008, 01:36:44 PM
I love the songs but its the production that keeps it from being a constant CD in my player
Get like a 500 band equalizer and boost the bass,lower the mids,take out the honky frequencies 200-400k then dip the CD itself in honey and stick it to you right butt-cheek.
 ;D

I'll get right on that but a quick question if I used my left cheek instead of the right will it playing backwards satanic messages
It'll say "I buried Mike"


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jamesman on February 29, 2008, 01:37:58 PM
I've got to try that.


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: antigoon on February 29, 2008, 01:42:23 PM
Such an underrated and under appreciated album. So many kick ass moments on it, and I really don't have a problem with the production. Charlie sounds awesome, and I think the only time I ever preferred James on the vocals of WDADU were on LATM.

Highlights:
A Fortune In Lies
Status Seeker
The Killing Hand
Afterlife
Only A Matter Of Time


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: charliedominici on February 29, 2008, 02:04:00 PM
Ok. Here's some cold facts for you all. When Mike decide to do the WDADU album in L.A. that 2004 March,I know ,as does everyone,it was partly,if not mainly to get a better recorded version of that CD with James singing the songs.I can appreciate that because A. James is the singer now and B. people have hounded them to re-record it with James for years and C.... I forgot what C  was. Anyway,here's the real deal. James sang a whole set of intense DT songs before he tackled that WDADU set and take it from me, those vocal melodies are not for wimps to sing. I had trouble with them many times even without having sung for an hour and a half first. I know that James could do a much better job if he sang those songs in a studio setting than he did that night. If you watch the video,you can see it in his face when he introduced me for "To live forever". He looked fried. I know that feeling, I have been there  myself and in light of this he did a pretty good job. Those vocals are hard to sing not only because of the range but the breathing patterns. I know I have commented on this before,but with most of those songs if you miss one breath you are dead. So I guess we all missed a chance to hear that album well recorded and with better vocals...unless Mike and the boys want to re-record it with me someday...hmmmmmm


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: ZeppelinDT on February 29, 2008, 02:10:36 PM
I love the songs but its the production that keeps it from being a constant CD in my player
Get like a 500 band equalizer and boost the bass,lower the mids,take out the honky frequencies 200-400k then dip the CD itself in honey and stick it to you right butt-cheek.
 ;D

I'll get right on that but a quick question if I used my left cheek instead of the right will it playing backwards satanic messages
It'll say "I buried Mike"

hm.
I always thought it said "cranberry bike"
I guess you learn something new every day!


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on February 29, 2008, 02:11:18 PM
When Dream and Day Unite is one of the best things Dream Theater has done to date, and a major reason why it is so good is the vocal melodies. Every melody is tough to sing -- they're all so unique and fresh and interweaving. The songs stick with you even if you can't quite remember them the first few times through, and once you listen to the record enough, you realize that it's a gem. People forget, as mentioned in the Dream Theater book, that WDADU might be one of the band's most critically successful albums. There are several reasons for this: firstly, the songs that grace WDADU are excellent, and secondly, those who listened to the record back when it first came out in 1989 did so with no preconceived notions.


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: charliedominici on February 29, 2008, 02:13:08 PM
When Dream and Day Unite is one of the best things Dream Theater has done to date, and a major reason why it is so good is the vocal melodies. Every melody is tough to sing -- they're all so unique and fresh and interweaving. The songs stick with you even if you can't quite remember them the first few times through, and once you listen to the record enough, you realize that it's a gem. People forget, as mentioned in the Dream Theater book, that WDADU might be one of the band's most critically successful albums. There are several reasons for this: firstly, the songs that grace WDADU are excellent, and secondly, those who listened to the record back when it first came out in 1989 did so with no preconceived notions.
Kudos on the second point especially.


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: lutima on February 29, 2008, 02:18:56 PM
Ok. Here's some cold facts for you all. When Mike decide to do the WDADU album in L.A. that 2004 March,I know ,as does everyone,it was partly,if not mainly to get a better recorded version of that CD with James singing the songs.I can appreciate that because A. James is the singer now and B. people have hounded them to re-record it with James for years and C.... I forgot what C  was. Anyway,here's the real deal. James sang a whole set of intense DT songs before he tackled that WDADU set and take it from me, those vocal melodies are not for wimps to sing. I had trouble with them many times even without having sung for an hour and a half first. I know that James could do a much better job if he sang those songs in a studio setting than he did that night. If you watch the video,you can see it in his face when he introduced me for "To live forever". He looked fried. I know that feeling, I have been there  myself and in light of this he did a pretty good job. Those vocals are hard to sing not only because of the range but the breathing patterns. I know I have commented on this before,but with most of those songs if you miss one breath you are dead. So I guess we all missed a chance to hear that album well recorded and with better vocals...unless Mike and the boys want to re-record it with me someday...hmmmmmm

It's great to hear you say this, Charlie  :), very noble of you  8)
I always loved the album, especially The Killing Hand  :)

Caroline


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: splent on February 29, 2008, 02:23:26 PM
WDADU is my 2nd favorite Dream Theater album.  It's MASSIVELY underrated, and it is just so amazing.  Only A Matter of Time is my favorite Dream Theater song.  Charlie, you sound AMAZING on that.


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: Phantasmatron on February 29, 2008, 02:28:20 PM
When Dream and Day Unite is one of the best things Dream Theater has done to date, and a major reason why it is so good is the vocal melodies. Every melody is tough to sing -- they're all so unique and fresh and interweaving. The songs stick with you even if you can't quite remember them the first few times through, and once you listen to the record enough, you realize that it's a gem. People forget, as mentioned in the Dream Theater book, that WDADU might be one of the band's most critically successful albums. There are several reasons for this: firstly, the songs that grace WDADU are excellent, and secondly, those who listened to the record back when it first came out in 1989 did so with no preconceived notions.

While I don't agree that WDADU is one of the best things DT has done, I do agree that it has some fantastic melodies on it and the songwriting was very strong. 

Only a Matter of Time might be one of my favorite melodies of all time.  I love to sing along with it, but (kinda like Charlie was saying earlier) I get so messed up trying to figure out when to breathe and trying to remember the speedily-delivered lyrics that I usually wind up trailing off and hoping nobody overheard me from the next room.   :P


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: charliedominici on February 29, 2008, 02:32:43 PM
When Dream and Day Unite is one of the best things Dream Theater has done to date, and a major reason why it is so good is the vocal melodies. Every melody is tough to sing -- they're all so unique and fresh and interweaving. The songs stick with you even if you can't quite remember them the first few times through, and once you listen to the record enough, you realize that it's a gem. People forget, as mentioned in the Dream Theater book, that WDADU might be one of the band's most critically successful albums. There are several reasons for this: firstly, the songs that grace WDADU are excellent, and secondly, those who listened to the record back when it first came out in 1989 did so with no preconceived notions.

While I don't agree that WDADU is one of the best things DT has done, I do agree that it has some fantastic melodies on it and the songwriting was very strong. 

Only a Matter of Time might be one of my favorite melodies of all time.  I love to sing along with it, but (kinda like Charlie was saying earlier) I get so messed up trying to figure out when to breathe and trying to remember the speedily-delivered lyrics that I usually wind up trailing off and hoping nobody overheard me from the next room.   :P
Yea! EXACTLY! only it was no fun when it happened in front of like 1000 people! That was my downfall back then. I'm going to post  a new comment now.


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: axeman9182 on February 29, 2008, 02:53:19 PM
I've always loved The Killing Hand, but the rest of the album never "clicked" with me. Then I misplaced it and never got another one.... I should really see about replacing it :lol


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: charliedominici on February 29, 2008, 02:58:38 PM
ok. Here's the deal. I'm going to put a lot of speculation and theories to rest with this post. When I first auditioned for DT back in 1987 I was floored when they played "Ytsejam" for me. I decided right then that I wanted the gig and I knew they were not getting too much out of my "imitations" of the previous vocalist so, Knowing what HUGE Rush fans they were ,I went with the High voice in that Geddy style because I knew that was what they really wanted to hear. Needless to say,that and my on-the-spot-melody writing for "The Killing Hand" that night was what got me the gig. It was a classic case of "Be careful what you wish for" because I put myself in a position where I needed to keep up a vocal style that was stretching my range more than a bit. Sooooo. When the occasion arose from time to time that I was not 100% for whatever reason,be it that I was drinking too much or stoned on coke,yea I was a wildman! Anyway,I knew that I was putting myself in a position where I made my own bed and now it was hard to sleep in it. This led to the obvious conclusion that I was not the right singer since they needed someone who sang in that high tenor range all the time naturally.That plus the personal differences we had,I was not so happy with them either for a lot of reasons that I won't get into,was the reason we parted ways. I'm glad the way things turned out because I finally got to do things my own way now,thanks mostly to the fact that I was even IN DT at one time. There you have it. My full confession!
And don't quote me because I'll deny every bit of it. Seriously, what I did back then was an over-achievement for me. I was out of my vocal range on most of those songs and on the others it was a case of a race for the next breath. I'm sooooo much happier singing the songs we write now in "Dominici". Who knows, maybe now that I'm calmed down(a little) I might do an album with vocals that really get up there again!


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: nimrod on February 29, 2008, 03:05:01 PM
I'm glad the way things turned out because I finally got to do things my own way now,thanks mostly to the fact that I was even IN DT at one time.

After reading the Lifting Shadows DT biography I must admit to being impressed by the way you handled parting ways with the band and you haven't just done a Kevin Moore and refused to have anything more to do with DT.


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: charliedominici on February 29, 2008, 03:42:11 PM
I'm glad the way things turned out because I finally got to do things my own way now,thanks mostly to the fact that I was even IN DT at one time.

After reading the Lifting Shadows DT biography I must admit to being impressed by the way you handled parting ways with the band and you haven't just done a Kevin Moore and refused to have anything more to do with DT.
Wierd shit about Kev. I never understood that whole thing.


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: Nick on February 29, 2008, 07:47:49 PM
No one really understand Kevin.


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: splent on February 29, 2008, 11:08:36 PM
No one really understand Kevin.

s.  ;)

BTW, did Kevin create the melodies for Only A Matter of Time and Light Fuse?  Because I know he wrote both of those songs... he put a lot of words in a short space... it's just a different way of writing music.  Like supercalifragilisticexpialadocious.


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: charliedominici on March 01, 2008, 05:17:45 AM
Those songs were definately the only ones where a lot of the melodies were from Kev's ideas. We worked them together but I must admit,with all those machine-gun lyrics, I was glad he had some direction to offer.
CD


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: VFS on March 01, 2008, 05:56:01 AM
It's the only DT studio release that I don't own. I'll have all 3 DOMINICI CDs in my hands before I get that, since the company that did the re-release last year doesn't kickback anything whatsoever to the artists, and I don't think I'm going to be able to find an original anywhere.


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: charliedominici on March 01, 2008, 06:18:08 AM
awww. Let me look in my magic box!
 ;)


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: VFS on March 01, 2008, 06:20:01 AM
Dude, do you have your very own Romper Room?

 :o

:P

ok just playing around, I'll lose the terrible sense of humor.  :lol

... man I'd love to complete my collection  :D


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: Amorim on March 01, 2008, 09:28:26 AM
I have to say that I LOVE the album (I love them all actually). And Charlie, you did a great job, as you always do!


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: charliedominici on March 01, 2008, 09:30:01 AM
Thanks bud!


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: Seph on March 01, 2008, 09:57:50 AM
WDaDU was the mark of a beggining for one of the best progressive metal bands in history. As Amorim said, I love all albuns from DT. WDaDU was a masterpiece, I still listen to it and think Charlie is the only possible singer for Only a Matter of Time (my favourite music from that album).  :metal


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: charliedominici on March 02, 2008, 12:29:56 AM
I just want to say thanks for the WDADU appreciation. That said, let me give my own opinion so as to let my position on the subject be known. I know the production on WDADU sucked. It was 1989 and we had a young and inexperienced producer,as we all were. The producer got better in later years,by the way so I am in no way trying to bash him like it looks in the DT book. I'm sorry I worded it the way I did in that interview. Here's the skinny. WDADU was great in 1989. Now it stands as just what it is-NOT DT's best album by a longshot,but a great debut by a great band. That was then,this is now. There is no need to start an ongoing argument about whether or not DT ever did anything as good because they have done some AMAZING things since WDADU. Furthermore,I am Charlie and James is James. I don't try to be James and I'm sure he certainly isn't trying to be me. Just appreciate it for what it is and was back then.For the record if you watch the backstage scenes with me and James going over "Metropolis" vocals together, just look at my expression when he sings "Lake of fire" and you will know just how much I respect him. He is a powerful and well trained singer.I never liked it when people compared me to him,it's Apples and Oranges as far as I'm concerned. I'm hoping this post might put a stop to all the back and forth on this. I appreciate the compliments on my work on WDADU but let's keep it real!


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: Zook on March 02, 2008, 07:49:52 AM
This isn't where I parked my car...


I've listened to WDADU a couple times. When I heard it the first time, I couldn't understand why everyone hated Status Seeker. It's an excelent song, and I love the chorus, but same goes with I Walk Beside You. Two great songs that get too much hate. Anyway, aside from the production, the album is pretty good. I should probably give it another spin sometime. Charlie's vocals aren't bad, but to be honest, I am pretty spoiled by James'. My favorite song on the album is The Killing Hand.

Good album. *appreciates*


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: lutima on March 02, 2008, 11:40:49 AM
I just want to say thanks for the WDADU appreciation. That said, let me give my own opinion so as to let my position on the subject be known. I know the production on WDADU sucked. It was 1989 and we had a young and inexperienced producer,as we all were. The producer got better in later years,by the way so I am in no way trying to bash him like it looks in the DT book. I'm sorry I worded it the way I did in that interview. Here's the skinny. WDADU was great in 1989. Now it stands as just what it is-NOT DT's best album by a longshot,but a great debut by a great band. That was then,this is now. There is no need to start an ongoing argument about whether or not DT ever did anything as good because they have done some AMAZING things since WDADU. Furthermore,I am Charlie and James is James. I don't try to be James and I'm sure he certainly isn't trying to be me. Just appreciate it for what it is and was back then.For the record if you watch the backstage scenes with me and James going over "Metropolis" vocals together, just look at my expression when he sings "Lake of fire" and you will know just how much I respect him. He is a powerful and well trained singer.I never liked it when people compared me to him,it's Apples and Oranges as far as I'm concerned. I'm hoping this post might put a stop to all the back and forth on this. I appreciate the compliments on my work on WDADU but let's keep it real!

 :tup


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: karpatisz on March 02, 2008, 01:10:39 PM
WDADU is one of my personal best albums. Awesome music with a great singer.  :metal


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: faemir on March 03, 2008, 01:29:50 PM
Ytse Jam and The Killing Hand are some top songs of DTs - the rest I haven't listened to enough to really get into, but I'm sure they are great as well ;)


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: the shredmaster on March 03, 2008, 01:47:18 PM
I never really liked Ytse Jam.


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: mike566 on March 03, 2008, 01:51:53 PM
Great album overall, Only A Matter Of Time is amazing. Charlie's vocals on there take some listening to if you don't have the ear for them, but if you do, or do over time, you will love it.


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: charliedominici on March 03, 2008, 02:57:23 PM
Ahhh...I'm like good wine!    :dammitnick:


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: Matt Gillis on March 04, 2008, 03:07:27 PM
Being a big dreamtheater fan, I wouldn't feel right calling this album their "best" album. HOWEVER, I can't say that it is lesser than any of their other albums either! Dream Theater made awesome music after Charlie, and they certainly made awesome music with him as well, so as far as I am concerned this album follows the same pattern that all the other albums do (or perhaps STARTED the pattern): awesome. I love the music on WDADU, and I think Charlie (and the other DT guys obviously) did a great job. The album does have a different sound to it, since it does sound more "eighties" to me (I'm realtively young, so I barely missed the 80's by being born in '90! So "eighties" to me sounds like a little different than the music I grew up with) but I still like it. Perhaps the production adds to this sound, but to wrap this up: great music is great music, you can still hear amazing musicianship even through a bad production.


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: Phantasmatron on March 04, 2008, 03:18:57 PM
Well-put, Matt.   :tup


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: charliedominici on March 04, 2008, 03:24:01 PM
Being a big dreamtheater fan, I wouldn't feel right calling this album their "best" album. HOWEVER, I can't say that it is lesser than any of their other albums either! Dream Theater made awesome music after Charlie, and they certainly made awesome music with him as well, so as far as I am concerned this album follows the same pattern that all the other albums do (or perhaps STARTED the pattern): awesome. I love the music on WDADU, and I think Charlie (and the other DT guys obviously) did a great job. The album does have a different sound to it, since it does sound more "eighties" to me (I'm realtively young, so I barely missed the 80's by being born in '90! So "eighties" to me sounds like a little different than the music I grew up with) but I still like it. Perhaps the production adds to this sound, but to wrap this up: great music is great music, you can still hear amazing musicianship even through a bad production.

Nice to hear that people are finally getting over the "I have to hate Charlie because I love James" syndrome! I always wondered how long it would take. Hmmm. in two days it will be 19 years to the day. WDADU was released March 6th,1989.Pretty quick I'd say!
CD :beer


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: Matt Gillis on March 04, 2008, 03:38:11 PM
Haha, no Charlie, I have never "hated" you  :lol As far as I am concerned you and James are mutually exclusive; like you said, its apples and oranges. A lot of Dream Theater fans I know dislike James, and while I like him, I also like you a lot (and I mean that) too. And just because I like one doesn't mean I have to dislike the other! That's just stupid in my opinion. As much as I might want to knew them, I don't know DT, so its not like I have to side with them just because James is the current vocalist. I just see this seperation as not a loss (though I think all of us fans wonder what it could have been) but an awesome oppertunity for you. Where would O3 be if you were still with DT? I guess my point is that now I have had TWO amazing bands I can love rather than just one.


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: charliedominici on March 05, 2008, 12:12:51 AM
Haha, no Charlie, I have never "hated" you  :lol As far as I am concerned you and James are mutually exclusive; like you said, its apples and oranges. A lot of Dream Theater fans I know dislike James, and while I like him, I also like you a lot (and I mean that) too. And just because I like one doesn't mean I have to dislike the other! That's just stupid in my opinion. As much as I might want to knew them, I don't know DT, so its not like I have to side with them just because James is the current vocalist. I just see this seperation as not a loss (though I think all of us fans wonder what it could have been) but an awesome oppertunity for you. Where would O3 be if you were still with DT? I guess my point is that now I have had TWO amazing bands I can love rather than just one.

Good point!  :tup


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: lutima on March 05, 2008, 03:10:36 AM
Nice to hear that people are finally getting over the "I have to hate Charlie because I love James" syndrome! I always wondered how long it would take.
CD :beer

Really Charlie ? :-\ I never experienced 'hate' against you by any DT fans I know !! You've been part of DT history, there's nothing fans should hate you for. In fact like Matt said before, if you like one, it doesn't automatically mean you 'hate' the other.
Besides I think 'hate' is a HUGE word, if you know what I mean. People use this word way too much when most of the times it's not the word they mean..
Anyway..as far as I know, fans respect you as much as they respect the other DT guys  :tup
On the other hand, there will always be people that complain about DT and especially about James in my eyes...As a singer yourself you should experience this yourself..I mean you ARE the frontman of a band too. If your voice isn't at his best one day you'll 'screw' up for the entire band. I feel it's unfair if people judge singers on their performance. Guitarists, drummers..they all are human...they all make mistakes, but the singers' mistakes are the ones that are heard...

 :)


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: charliedominici on March 05, 2008, 09:26:24 AM
Nice to hear that people are finally getting over the "I have to hate Charlie because I love James" syndrome! I always wondered how long it would take.
CD :beer

Really Charlie ? :-\ I never experienced 'hate' against you by any DT fans I know !! You've been part of DT history, there's nothing fans should hate you for. In fact like Matt said before, if you like one, it doesn't automatically mean you 'hate' the other.
Besides I think 'hate' is a HUGE word, if you know what I mean. People use this word way too much when most of the times it's not the word they mean..
Anyway..as far as I know, fans respect you as much as they respect the other DT guys  :tup
On the other hand, there will always be people that complain about DT and especially about James in my eyes...As a singer yourself you should experience this yourself..I mean you ARE the frontman of a band too. If your voice isn't at his best one day you'll 'screw' up for the entire band. I feel it's unfair if people judge singers on their performance. Guitarists, drummers..they all are human...they all make mistakes, but the singers' mistakes are the ones that are heard...

 :)


Obviously this is not directed at any of the people in this forum. The many remarks I have read over the years on "Blabbermouth.net"," Johnpetrucci.com",Mikeportnoy.com" and others have often had this kind of immature remark. I always took it from whence it came and it never bothered me personally. I just always felt that anyone who was displaying this kind of attitude was only letting their own immaturity cheat them out of enjoying both bands instead of only one.
I'm not having a panic attack over it,trust me!
 ;D


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: Matt Gillis on March 05, 2008, 11:42:59 AM
". . .I'm not having a panic attack over it,trust me!"

I'd almost call that a DT reference! Now if you made 8 of them, I'd be very scared  :lol See Charlie, we all love you. . . though that might be worse than you thinking we disliked you lol



Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: dech2410 on March 05, 2008, 11:57:10 AM
WDADU is musically a great album. And we can all here how hard it was to sing it. But hearing James sing afterlife, that's just great. i was recently talking with my family about it (yes they all listen DT here) And we all had the same opinion... NOONE does a fortune in lies better then Charlie did on the album. It just sounds so inspired and passionate. On the other hand, James doing Only a matter of time is great too. I really like the album, ok, had to get used to it, but hey, you did what you liked and we like that you liked to did what you like, likewise ;)


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: charliedominici on March 05, 2008, 12:13:03 PM
WDADU is musically a great album. And we can all here how hard it was to sing it. But hearing James sing afterlife, that's just great. i was recently talking with my family about it (yes they all listen DT here) And we all had the same opinion... NOONE does a fortune in lies better then Charlie did on the album. It just sounds so inspired and passionate. On the other hand, James doing Only a matter of time is great too. I really like the album, ok, had to get used to it, but hey, you did what you liked and we like that you liked to did what you like, likewise ;)


you should hear me sing "Pull me under" And "Under a Glass moon". Like I have said many,many times, There is and there never will be absolutley ANY competition of any kind between myself and the great JLB. Everyone is quite welcome to have whatever preference they so desire,just like they have a right to their personal preference on the subject of  vanilla and chocolate. Debating the issue is pointless in my humble opinion. Thanks for the compliments,by the way,on behalf of myself and also Mr. La Brie!


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: dech2410 on March 05, 2008, 12:16:51 PM
WDADU is musically a great album. And we can all here how hard it was to sing it. But hearing James sing afterlife, that's just great. i was recently talking with my family about it (yes they all listen DT here) And we all had the same opinion... NOONE does a fortune in lies better then Charlie did on the album. It just sounds so inspired and passionate. On the other hand, James doing Only a matter of time is great too. I really like the album, ok, had to get used to it, but hey, you did what you liked and we like that you liked to did what you like, likewise ;)


you should hear me sing "Pull me under" And "Under a Glass moon". Like I have said many,many times, There is and there never will be absolutley ANY competition of any kind between myself and the great JLB. Everyone is quite welcome to have whatever preference they so desire,just like they have a right to their personal preference on the subject of  vanilla and chocolate. Debating the issue is pointless in my humble opinion. Thanks for the compliments,by the way,on behalf of myself and also Mr. La Brie!

Oh now you done it! Now we demand a complete cover of Images and Words  :rollin


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: charliedominici on March 05, 2008, 12:22:50 PM
Actually, I'm thinking of doing the entire trilogy live someday and inviting James up to do the encore singing "Hell on Earth" and "Genesis"  LOL


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: nimrod on March 05, 2008, 01:04:30 PM
On that "some day" you can bet I will be there. I would love to hear all three one after the other live :hat I listened to Part One and Part Two one after the other and I think The Monster is a great transition and suits where the storyline is going. That said, I think Nowhere To Hide is a bit heavy too early on in the album in contrast to the first album, The Monster worked for me and Nowhere To Hide is great I just think there should be a more melodic song there and the heavy stuff coming out more towards the end of the album. I don't mean in any way that the album is flawed I am just voicing how I think I might prefer it. But seriously good stuff and the storyline has a lot of depth.


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: charliedominici on March 05, 2008, 02:10:55 PM
On that "some day" you can bet I will be there. I would love to hear all three one after the other live :hat I listened to Part One and Part Two one after the other and I think The Monster is a great transition and suits where the storyline is going. That said, I think Nowhere To Hide is a bit heavy too early on in the album in contrast to the first album, The Monster worked for me and Nowhere To Hide is great I just think there should be a more melodic song there and the heavy stuff coming out more towards the end of the album. I don't mean in any way that the album is flawed I am just voicing how I think I might prefer it. But seriously good stuff and the storyline has a lot of depth.
Thanks for the input, Nimrod. You are welcome to rearrange the order of the tracks on your Ipod or mp3 player anyway you wish !
CD


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: dech2410 on March 05, 2008, 02:52:00 PM
Lol, don't say that, If he has a 2GB ipod, you won't even be on it xD


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: nimrod on March 06, 2008, 03:26:35 AM
 :lol Well good job I have one of those new 80GB Classics and don't have to make that choice! I seriously could not live on 2GB alone, before I had an iPod I used to use my phone which only had 512MB - complete nightmare.


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: SeaWolf on March 06, 2008, 07:18:11 AM
Okay, you know someone will have to do this eventually, so I'm just gonna take care of it now. :)

Personally I think it is easily Dream Theater's most underrated album. The sound is fresh, energetic, powerful, and the only thing it lacks is production. Songs like The Killing Hand, A Fortune in Lies, Only a Matter of Time, and Status Seeker (Yes, Status Seeker) really should not be overlooked as they are in the grand scheme of DT's career. And there is not a bad song in the ones I didn't mention either. Incredibly consistent, entertaining, and excellent.
And the vocals sound like "Alvin and the chipmunks" :o

Don't be so hard on yourself, I love the vocals on WDADU.  "An angel's kiss, now fallen...  :'("


Title: Re: WDaDU Appreciation Thread
Post by: Silent Voice on March 06, 2008, 10:03:18 AM
I love it ... after Images and Words and Awake it's my favourite DT album  :metal